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Immobilised by the immobiliser!

Postby jo » Mon 17th Jul 2006, 03:29pm

My Sprite 1.3i Automatic has been incredibly reliable until . . .

The alarm/immobiliser became incredibly slow to turn on and off. I changed the batteries in the two handsets and then tried again. Only one of them seemed to work and that took ages each time with the handset being next to the dash.

Bought two new handsets from eBay (exact matches) and tried again - nothing.

Found the battery was leaking in the boot - changed it and tried to reset the alarms - nothing again. Now my baby is sitting on the drive and I can't even start it to get it to my usual garage!!!!

I have looked in the Haynes Manual - but it might as well be in Cantonese . . . .

Has anyone any ideas? Thanks (in advance!)
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RE: Immobilised by the immobiliser!

Postby timinichelsea » Mon 17th Jul 2006, 05:47pm

Did you get the new alarm fobs reprogrammed correctly?
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Postby jo » Mon 17th Jul 2006, 06:36pm

No! Didn't know I had to!

According to the car manual, I just need to point it at the car and press the lock button five times and then it'll work.

The wavelength is the same (MHz - I think)

All very confusing (and the spots and the CD don't work either).

Thanks
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Postby jimmy2006 » Mon 17th Jul 2006, 08:41pm

PM me for help
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Postby steve007 » Mon 17th Jul 2006, 09:25pm

i had a problem with my immob randomly switching itself on.

Cleaned the fuse box terminals and seemed to sort itself out.
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Postby POWARTEK » Tue 18th Jul 2006, 02:24am

just trace all the wiring back and rip the dam thing out.
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Postby Paul » Tue 18th Jul 2006, 02:42am

If your a member of the AA or the RAC, they will come out and by-pass it for you
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Postby jo » Tue 18th Jul 2006, 01:39pm

Thank you all for your advice etc.. The AA man came (after I'd cleaned the fuses (and found one had blown!) and he couldn't make it work either, but in fiddling with it, we managed to turn the immobiliser off.

Thanks also to POWARTEK for the inspirationally nihilistic approach but alas the Rover Minis of 1995 were super security concious and the thing is wired into the ECU and stops transmission AND running!

However there is a good specialist on Canvey Island who has quoted £119 for a complete new unit (that they can fit tomorrow afternoon) \:D/

TRhen it's off the my Mini specialists to look at the oil leak - bloody speed bumps . . . . . .
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Postby minicity » Tue 18th Jul 2006, 02:39pm

jo wrote:However there is a good specialist on Canvey Island who has quoted £119 for a complete new unit (that they can fit tomorrow afternoon) \:D/


Theres a mini specialists on Canvey... where??? :)
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Postby jo » Tue 18th Jul 2006, 04:40pm

No - the alarm specialist is in Canvey (being a Rover 'n' all). The Mini Specialists are in Benfleet. Three units away from Just Minis, there are two guys who recondition Triumphs but learned their trade as apprentices on the early Minis (Carlow Engineering).

My auto transmission went (quote of £3500 for new part). They had a friend who had a brand new one (£750 cash) and they fitted it cleaning out the engine and adjusting the subframe to give it more clearance for the extra £300!!!! dedicated to keeping Minis on the go - and I had a "good-as-new" Sprite.

I usually use a garage in Wickford for the main stuff (Kwik Fit) and they are excellent!
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Postby jimmy2006 » Tue 18th Jul 2006, 05:28pm

Be for you get it fitted check with your insurance :)
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Postby katie0344 » Mon 16th Apr 2007, 03:57pm

hi, i know it was ages ago but do you remember how you and the AA man managed to turn off the immobiliser?
my N reg mini equinox is having the same issues and i can't afford a garage call-out fee on top of getting it fixed.
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Postby jo » Mon 16th Apr 2007, 07:22pm

Alas - we didn't turn it off. :( There was a spark of juice in the system that momentarily worked. I then left the ignition on overnight and started it from the battery in our other car!!

Have you got the AA home start option (or similar)? If so call them - or push the Mini down the road and call them! Towing is another option . . . . . :cry:

I'm sorry that I can't be more help and the alarm immobiliser is both brilliant and a pain because it immobilises the engine not just the ignition.

Good luck!
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Postby katie0344 » Tue 17th Apr 2007, 12:58pm

thanks anyway, thought it was too good to be true!

in a final attempt to get it going last night i tried the old "broken" key fob, one of it's buttons is completely missing but i stuck a new battery in it and it worked!! this morning the immobiliser haden't come back on so i managed to get to work by myself for the first time in 12 days!!

booked into the autoelectricians tomorrow, just hope my luck holds till then!
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Postby jo » Tue 17th Apr 2007, 02:34pm

I hope it's the key fob - the other bitunit has to be ordered and is basically a computer program that resets the internal unit. Good luck!
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Postby katie0344 » Thu 19th Apr 2007, 01:18pm

wooohoooo!!! \:D/
it was the key fob, it had lost bits of solder so it wasen't getting any juice. Tenner later and I can turn the immobiliser off and ON!!! (have NEVER been able to turn it on- sometimes it came on sometimes not)
Woke up the neighbours this morning tho as forgot to press the button b4 opening the door....ooops. :oops: :whistle:
was expecting it to be expensive- when is ever cheap?- so had £130 put aside, that leaves £120 to spend, now what shall i buy..new grill?.... nice chromy arches?....dash?....decisions, decisions!! he he :D
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Postby simmouk » Thu 19th Apr 2007, 03:45pm

I'll give £120 a new home :D
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Postby jo » Thu 19th Apr 2007, 04:15pm

I think the encouragement and advise given should be remunerated . . . . . :whistle:

I am very pleased for you.

My little Sprite (Boris) was MOTd and after I'd picked it up the immobiliser was stuck . . . . . £5 at the jewellers next door and away we went! But my heart did sink . . . . .

And enjoy waking the neighbours - I do (especially as I sometimes get called out in the early hours . . . . . . .)
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Postby jo » Thu 19th Apr 2007, 04:16pm

Oops! Spelled "advice" wrong - the shame
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Postby complementorylex » Thu 19th Apr 2007, 09:53pm

what age is your sprite?
im just wondering why yours has an immobiliser and mine doesnt :cry:
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Postby jo » Fri 20th Apr 2007, 12:00am

Rover N reg (1996 - I think) 1.3i engine - though mine is automatic! Damn fine car . . . .

Immobilisers are great until they don't work! As I said earlier - the Mini immobiliser stops the engine from turning not the ignition - so even if you try and by pass it the engine won't run. Clever until your immobiliser plays up!
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